{"id":5893,"date":"2013-12-16T10:13:06","date_gmt":"2013-12-16T18:13:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.pnwumc.org\/news\/?p=5893"},"modified":"2014-01-07T23:37:12","modified_gmt":"2014-01-08T07:37:12","slug":"umns-same-sex-clergy-couple-marries-in-seattle","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pnwumc.org\/news\/umns-same-sex-clergy-couple-marries-in-seattle\/","title":{"rendered":"UMNS: Same-sex clergy couple marries in Seattle"},"content":{"rendered":"

The Rev. Joanne Carlson Brown (left), Thistle the Wonder Westie and the Rev. Christie Lagergren Brown. Photo courtesy of the Browns.<\/em><\/p>\n

By Heather Hahn*<\/h3>\n

\u201cI won\u2019t live my life without her no matter what happens,\u201d said the Rev. Joanne Carlson Brown of her partner, the Rev. Christie Newbill.<\/p>\n

The two United Methodist pastors made that promise before God and each other in a wedding Dec. 7 that drew more than 300 people to Tibbetts United Methodist Church in Seattle. The district superintendent for the two pastors, the Rev. Patricia Simpson, officiated.<\/p>\n

Their promise means they will face whatever happens to them because they have disregarded The United Methodist Church\u2019s ban on same-sex unions. Simpson could face charges under church law for officiating. It also is against church law for a same-sex ceremony to be held in a United Methodist church.<\/p>\n

The marriage of the same-sex clergy couple marked what is a first in the\u00a0Pacific Northwest Annual (regional) Conference<\/a>\u00a0\u2014 and likely a first for the denomination. The ceremony took place at a time when United Methodist clergy,\u00a0including retired Bishop Melvin Talbert<\/a>, have publicly defied the church\u2019s prohibition and\u00a0more states are legalizing same-sex marriage<\/a>.<\/p>\n

But the couple and their district superintendent emphasized they were not trying to make news or take a public stand against the church\u2019s much-contested teachings on homosexuality. Brown and Newbill \u2014 now the Rev. Christie Lagergren Brown \u2014 said they wanted a private ceremony before God, their church, family and friends.<\/p>\n

\u201cChristie gets me in a way that no one in the universe gets me, which is not easy sometimes,\u201d Joanne Brown said. \u201cI can\u2019t imagine living my life without her.\u201d<\/p>\n

The three clergywomen agreed to an interview after United Methodist News Service learned of the nuptials from another individual.<\/p>\n

\u201cWhen Joanne and I moved to a place in our relationship where we were discussing marriage, we were not influenced by or were identifying in any way with other events throughout our denomination,\u201d Christie Brown said. \u201cI never considered this as (a statement) against The United Methodist Church. Our marriage is our statement for declaring to our friends and family, in the presence of God, our love and commitment for one another.\u201d<\/p>\n

Desire for church wedding<\/b><\/h3>\n

Joanne Brown said the two wanted a church wedding \u201cbecause of the spiritual aspect of our relationship.\u201d<\/p>\n

At 60, she has been the pastor of\u00a0Tibbetts United Methodist Church<\/a>\u00a0for the past seven years and a longtime adjunct professor at Seattle University\u2019s\u00a0School of Theology and Ministry<\/a>, where she teaches courses on Wesleyan and Protestant Reformation history. She has a doctorate in historical theology and church history from United Methodist-related Boston University.<\/p>\n

Her wife, 65, a former certified public accountant, has been the pastor since July of\u00a0Woodland Park United Methodist Church<\/a>.<\/p>\n

The two met in 2003 when Christie Brown was a second-career ministerial student at Seattle University\u2019s School of Theology and Ministry and her future wife a professor. They became friends as clergy colleagues and have been a couple for two years.<\/p>\n

Both of their congregations have voted to host any wedding that is legal in Washington State, which legalized same-sex marriage in 2012. The two churches identify themselves as part of the Reconciling Ministries Network, an unofficial group that advocates for greater inclusion of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender individuals in the life of The United Methodist Church.<\/p>\n

Church members as well as other United Methodist clergy attended the wedding, which blended traditions from the couple\u2019s Scottish and Swedish roots. Joanne Brown wore a kilt. The Tibbetts handbell choir played the processional, a Swedish wedding march.<\/p>\n

Simpson noted that as a district superintendent she is charged with providing pastoral care for clergy in her district and their families as well as upholding the Book of Discipline \u2014 the global denomination\u2019s law book.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt was under that responsibility for pastoral care that I said yes to Joanne and Christie,\u201d Simpson said. \u201cIt\u2019s not uncommon that there would be conflicts of that sort. Basically I came down on the pastoral side.\u201d<\/p>\n

Simpson also provided the couple with premarital counseling. She said her conversations with the couple assured her that theirs would be \u201ca long-lived and life-giving relationship not only for them but also strengthening them in their ministry.\u201d<\/p>\n

Still, all three women acknowledged that there could be consequences for the wedding \u2014 consequences they say they are prepared to accept.<\/p>\n

Church law and marriage<\/b><\/h3>\n

The United Methodist Book of Discipline affirms \u201cthe sanctity of the marriage covenant that is expressed in love, mutual support, personal commitment, and shared fidelity between a man and a woman<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n

Since 1972,\u00a0the Book of Discipline<\/a>\u00a0has said all people are of sacred worth but \u201cthe practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching.\u201d<\/p>\n

Still, Joanne Brown \u2014 a cradle United Methodist \u2014 noted that church law has changed since she began pursuing a call to ordained ministry in the mid-1970s.<\/p>\n

In 1984 \u2014 two years after Joanne Brown was ordained an elder \u2014 the church added the prohibition against \u201cself-avowed practicing\u201d gay individuals from serving \u201cas candidates, ordained as ministers or appointed in The United Methodist Church.\u201d<\/p>\n

In subsequent years, the church added the ban on United Methodist clergy performing, and churches hosting \u201cceremonies that celebrate homosexual unions.\u201d Since 2004, violating either prohibition has been a chargeable offence under church law that potentially could lead to a church trial.<\/p>\n

General Conference, which meets every four years and sets the laws for the denomination,\u00a0 in 2012 retained the earlier language and rejected\u00a0a resolution that stated the church disagrees on sexuality.<\/a>\u00a0The next General Conference will be in 2016.<\/p>\n

\u201cI approach the Discipline the way I approach the Bible,\u201d Joanne Brown said. \u201cMy hermeneutic coming both to the Scriptures and the Discipline is that the Gospel is a Gospel of radical love and liberation, and anything that does not speak the word of radical love and liberation is not of God.\u201d<\/p>\n

Christie Brown added that she tries to take in the fullness of the Discipline and Bible, and \u201cwhat it means to be loved by God and loving of others for God.\u201d<\/p>\n

Possible consequences<\/b><\/h3>\n

But even as the church by majority vote has maintained its stance on homosexuality, United Methodists who disagree increasingly have challenged that position in a public way.<\/p>\n

Since 2011, more than 1,000 active and retired United Methodist clergy across the United States have\u00a0signed pledges announcing their willingness to officiate at same-sex unions<\/a>. The United Methodist Church has more than 46,000 active and retired clergy in the United States.<\/p>\n

In 2012, delegates to the Western Jurisdiction \u2014 which encompasses the Pacific Northwest Conference and seven other conferences in the westernmost United States \u2014 voted to support a grassroots movement to act as if the stance against homosexuality in the Book of Discipline \u2014Paragraph 161F<\/a>\u00a0\u2014 \u201cdoes not exist.\u201d<\/p>\n

Even if a case stemming from the Browns\u2019 marriage goes to trial, the Book of Discipline gives the trial court \u2014 a jury of 13 clergy \u2014 a range of penalties with a conviction. These include suspension or a lesser penalty.<\/p>\n

Simpson said clergy in the Pacific Northwest Conference, which for years has supported efforts to change the Book of Discipline, might seek a lesser penalty to any complaint filed as a result of the wedding.<\/p>\n

\u201cOver the decades, literally hundreds of United Methodist pastors have faced choices about doing services for couples in their congregations or in their communities \u2014 either holy unions or in more recent times in some states, legal marriages,\u201d she said. \u201cThis is not a new question, and not a unique set of decisions we have made.\u201d<\/p>\n

Joanne Brown said that since college she has been open about her sexual orientation and she and her wife have every intention of continuing to live their lives with integrity.<\/p>\n

\u201cI always trusted that what God had in mind would happen.\u201d<\/p>\n

*Hahn is a multimedia news reporter for United Methodist News Service. Kathy Gilbert, a UMNS reporter, also contributed to the story. Contact Hahn at (615) 742-5470 ornewsdesk@umcom.org<\/a>.<\/address>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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